lvl 19 minions - Guild Wars Forums

Danman · Jul 22, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

doing faction battles with my mm and came across an enemy set of minions which where lvl 19 this means the nec that raised em is lvl 17 death wtf how is this possible allthough i o ghials has the chance but every one of these minions was lvl 19 and the golem 28 how did he do this? surely he cant just be lucky with every minion with a staff chance...

Former Ruling · Jul 22, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Monsters =/= Players.

Mobs can have whatever stats ANet wants them to have. Its quite possible (and likely) that the monster just had a base attribute of 17 in Death...MOst higher area enemies ARE over lvl20 you see...its only likely that they get further attribute points with those lvls

Markaedw · Jul 22, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

The MM used a death off hand that has +1 death 20%. My MM gets lvl 19 minions all the lime

Danman · Jul 22, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22

no but having that is onyl 20%chance so all the time is not possible so wtf he doing and btw this is in pvp so anet cant just give a high skill to a player liek a monster

serenitys flame · Jul 22, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I'm not sure, but I believe there is a skill that raises the attributes for death magic temporarily (as there is one for blood and curses magic). Either that, or you're just very confused.

Danman · Jul 22, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

wouldnt doubt im crazy xD but if there is that skill anyone got the names curses too plz

Don Zardeone · Jul 22, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

Dual +1 20% so he has about 36 or so % chance to have 17 death.
Then he probably used that lick skill thing that kills a minion on his minions that were below level 19...

So if you have a chance of 34-36% to have a level 19 and you kill off all your sub19s then you'll have all minions lvl 19.... X.x

It is perfectly possible for the +1 20% chance to kick in 100% of the time during a battle.

edit: I also believe there's this skill that raises a few attributes to +1

Hockster · Jul 22, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by Danman

no but having that is onyl 20%chance so all the time is not possible so wtf he doing and btw this is in pvp so anet cant just give a high skill to a player liek a monster

Huh??

Danman · Jul 22, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43

yeah that could work any ideas on the wand and offhand then? atm im using a woe spreader staff

Danman · Jul 22, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

The MM used a death off hand that has +1 death 20%. My MM gets lvl 19 minions all the lime

would that work on a staff then such as ghials?

Sereng Amaranth · Jul 23, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27

Awaken The Blood raises Curses and Blood Magic by 2. I am unaware of a comparable skill that affects Death.

Markaedw · Jul 23, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Ghail's or any staff that has wrapping that does +1 death xx%, will cause a lvl 19 minion. Of cousre a +1 death 20% wrapping and an insightful staff head is still far cheaper than Ghail's which is currently running around 50k.

Right now I use the Zu Corridor collector focus and the Morgriff's scepter.

arcanemacabre · Jul 23, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

Ghail's or any staff that has wrapping that does +1 death xx%, will cause a lvl 19 minion. Of cousre a +1 death 20% wrapping and an insightful staff head is still far cheaper than Ghail's which is currently running around 50k.

That's so not true. Have you seen how much a +1 Death 20% is going for? At least 50k, more than likely higher. It's cheaper (though not by much) to just get Ghials, unless you get a wrapping as a drop, or can deal with 19%-18%.

Besides, you can't get +1/+1 from a staff, you'd need a +1 wand/scepter and a +1 off-hand. Which I believe is possible with collector/weaponsmiths. Check guildwiki for that info.

Isaac Lunoa · Jul 23, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

There is no +1 (20%) mod on any wand.

Markaedw · Jul 23, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Just checked this auction site, arcanemacabre is right.

+1 death 20% wrapping 50-60k
Insightfull staff head 3k
Death staff (if you don't have the items) 500g
Ghial's 45-70k
It could go either way

Morgith scepter 1-9k
collector wand 500g (if you don't have the items)
colector focus +1 death +30 health 500g (if you don't have the items)

Interesting enough guildwiki has a listing for lvl 18 death, how that is obtainable is not listed.

Anyone?

I have never seen a +1 death wand though, or any skills that add +1 to death.

So really Ghials being called the best is debateable, 3 extra points of energy with 9 or above in soul reaping isn't going to be missed.

arcanemacabre · Jul 23, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

Interesting enough guildwiki has a listing for lvl 18 death, how that is obtainable is not listed.

Anyone?

I have never seen a +1 death wand though, or any skills that add +1 to death.

So really Ghials being called the best is debateable, 3 extra points of energy with 9 or above in soul reaping isn't going to be missed.

It's true, there is no +1 wand, just confirmed it. Getting 18 in any attribute is definately possible, and easy, too. Just need to get a blessing from your local god while you have favor. They can add +1 to any attribute, depending on the god. So a necro can get +1 to all atts from Grenth, then add in the +1 from the staff/focus, and there you go!

And yeah, a wand/off-hand from collectors or weaponsmiths is the way to go, unless you really want that gold or green.

Plushie Penguin · Jul 23, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19

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Originally Posted by Isaac Lunoa

There is no +1 (20%) mod on any wand.

it's not a mod like the +health for swords and such, we mean just as a..... addition to the damage the wand does

Don Zardeone · Jul 23, 2006, 06:34 AM // 06:34

I could swear I've seen a +1 20% on a wand before but yeah I can't find any either.

Still he probably used a staff wrapping or an offhand then.. X.x

nefastaruebays · Jul 23, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

take the party enchantment of +1DM for 20 mins from Grenth and if u already have +1dm 20% item u can spawn lvl 30 golems + lvl 20 friends ^^

Jul 22, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09	#1
Danman Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Temple Of Peaceful Warriors[TOPW] Profession: W/Mo	lvl 19 minions doing faction battles with my mm and came across an enemy set of minions which where lvl 19 this means the nec that raised em is lvl 17 death wtf how is this possible allthough i o ghials has the chance but every one of these minions was lvl 19 and the golem 28 how did he do this? surely he cant just be lucky with every minion with a staff chance...

Jul 22, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#2
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Monsters =/= Players. Mobs can have whatever stats ANet wants them to have. Its quite possible (and likely) that the monster just had a base attribute of 17 in Death...MOst higher area enemies ARE over lvl20 you see...its only likely that they get further attribute points with those lvls

Jul 22, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19	#3
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	The MM used a death off hand that has +1 death 20%. My MM gets lvl 19 minions all the lime

Jul 22, 2006, 09:22 PM // 21:22	#4
Danman Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Temple Of Peaceful Warriors[TOPW] Profession: W/Mo	no but having that is onyl 20%chance so all the time is not possible so wtf he doing and btw this is in pvp so anet cant just give a high skill to a player liek a monster

Jul 22, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27	#5
serenitys flame Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2005	I'm not sure, but I believe there is a skill that raises the attributes for death magic temporarily (as there is one for blood and curses magic). Either that, or you're just very confused.

Jul 22, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#6
Danman Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Temple Of Peaceful Warriors[TOPW] Profession: W/Mo	wouldnt doubt im crazy xD but if there is that skill anyone got the names curses too plz

Jul 22, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34	#7
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	Dual +1 20% so he has about 36 or so % chance to have 17 death. Then he probably used that lick skill thing that kills a minion on his minions that were below level 19... So if you have a chance of 34-36% to have a level 19 and you kill off all your sub19s then you'll have all minions lvl 19.... X.x It is perfectly possible for the +1 20% chance to kick in 100% of the time during a battle. edit: I also believe there's this skill that raises a few attributes to +1

Jul 22, 2006, 09:43 PM // 21:43	#9
Danman Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Temple Of Peaceful Warriors[TOPW] Profession: W/Mo	yeah that could work any ideas on the wand and offhand then? atm im using a woe spreader staff

Jul 23, 2006, 01:27 AM // 01:27	#11
Sereng Amaranth Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB]	Awaken The Blood raises Curses and Blood Magic by 2. I am unaware of a comparable skill that affects Death.

Jul 23, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12	#12
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	Ghail's or any staff that has wrapping that does +1 death xx%, will cause a lvl 19 minion. Of cousre a +1 death 20% wrapping and an insightful staff head is still far cheaper than Ghail's which is currently running around 50k. Right now I use the Zu Corridor collector focus and the Morgriff's scepter.

Jul 23, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#14
Isaac Lunoa Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: The Runners Academy [LBS]	There is no +1 (20%) mod on any wand.

Jul 23, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01	#15
Markaedw Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: N/	Just checked this auction site, arcanemacabre is right. +1 death 20% wrapping 50-60k Insightfull staff head 3k Death staff (if you don't have the items) 500g Ghial's 45-70k It could go either way Morgith scepter 1-9k collector wand 500g (if you don't have the items) colector focus +1 death +30 health 500g (if you don't have the items) Interesting enough guildwiki has a listing for lvl 18 death, how that is obtainable is not listed. Anyone? I have never seen a +1 death wand though, or any skills that add +1 to death. So really Ghials being called the best is debateable, 3 extra points of energy with 9 or above in soul reaping isn't going to be missed.

Jul 23, 2006, 06:34 AM // 06:34	#18
Don Zardeone Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	I could swear I've seen a +1 20% on a wand before but yeah I can't find any either. Still he probably used a staff wrapping or an offhand then.. X.x

Jul 23, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42	#19
nefastaruebays Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Crystalline Farmers Profession: N/Me	take the party enchantment of +1DM for 20 mins from Grenth and if u already have +1dm 20% item u can spawn lvl 30 golems + lvl 20 friends ^^